In the podcast discussion on Deadpool and Wolverine, several key points were highlighted:
1. Film Reception: The film's reception was notably negative. One speaker expressed active antipathy towards it, contrasting it with the first two Deadpool films which "at least had heart" and emotional stakes 00:43:30.
2. Character Dynamics: The potential of centering the film on Wolverine's character was discussed. It was suggested that Wolverine’s storyline of regret and connections was overshadowed by Ryan Reynolds' portrayal of Deadpool. The film did not deeply explore Wolverine’s character, resulting in a broad and trope-level understanding of him 00:44:00.
3. Plot and Emotional Depth: The film, while featuring cool fight scenes, was described as having a shallow plot. The relationship between Deadpool and Vanessa was criticized for being poorly written and not believable, especially given the developments in the previous films 00:45:00.
4. Criticism and Commercial Success: The film was not seen as "good pop", with criticism about its contribution to the trend of similar movies, despite its commercial success 00:59:30.
5. Hugh Jackman's Performance: Despite the film's shortcomings, Hugh Jackman was praised for his performance as Wolverine. However, it was noted that this was a different universe Wolverine, and some emotional beats were lost without a deeper connection to past films like "Logan" 00:44:30.
6. Overall Execution: The film was described as having a "Deadpoolization" effect, where the depth seen in previous Deadpool films was missing, resulting in a less satisfying narrative 00:43:00.
Overall, the discussion highlighted that while there were elements of interest, particularly in action sequences, the film failed to deliver on character depth and emotional engagement.